Published on April 18th, 2014 | by Rayne5
Mens Rights Activists vs Radical Feminism: Two sides of the same coin
Like most social media sites, my Twitter is a good way to meet wonderful people and a great way to witness the depth of utter delusion spewed forth by angry individuals with an axe to grind. Dear readers, I’m talking about Mens Rights Activists and Radical Feminists – two groups constantly at war with each other, who blame each other for the problems of the world. Two groups of people who have an inability to see that they’re aren’t the solution to the worlds problems, they are in part a large cause of them.
The Mens Rights Movement is a branch of the mens liberation movement which started in the 1970s, originally it had some good ideas. More rights for fathers, reproductive choices for men (if women get the choice not be parents, men should have that same choice), advocacy around issues such as male survivors of rape, incest and domestic abuse, advocating against male genital mutilation, advocating for proper education for boys and young men – especially for those who don’t have access to it or are living in poverty, amongst other issues.
It’s since gone to shit. The movement quickly morphed into some men advocating against feminism and rights for women. They promote the idea that feminism is inherently bad for society because it discriminates against men and oppresses them. Rather than actually doing proactive things like open homeless shelters and rape/domestic abuse shelters for men or starting up suicide hotlines for men or advocating for better healthcare and education to reduce men living in poverty – they sit on the Internet pissing and moaning about how feminism is bad because people are calingl out the bullshit that MRA’s like to sprout. They’re missing the point – feminists aren’t trying to oppress them, calling someone out on your bullshit isn’t oppression. The Mens Rights Movement has turned into a bunch of people congratulating themselves on how awesome they are while whinging how women all treat them horribly and placing the blame for their own bullshit onto another group of people. The above type of Mens Rights Activists – despite being a minority, use the the Mens Rights Movement as a front for misogyny while claiming to be for gender equality. Ironically (also hypocritically) they blame feminists for their “man-hatred,” but dump absurd amounts of hatred on men who don’t share their persecution complex. If you don’t act “like a man” and agree with them, you’re probably a mangina and responsible for the ongoing “feminization” of our society.
Because somehow women fighting for better futures and better living conditions for women somehow devalues the lives and experiences of men. Right. The forums antimisandry.com and A Voice For Men are breeding grounds for young angry misogynists looking for a way out of taking responsibility for their own shitty attitude and placing the blame on women. In particular my favorite misogynist (also antisemite and raging homophobe) is Henry Makow who runs a website called SaveTheMales.ca -Henry Makow is a man who must walk around with a constant sense of paranoia that Jewish people, gays and women (possibly Jewish gay women) are going to break into his house in the middle of the night, castrate him and force him to participate in the New World Order.
Pro-feminist blog, Manboobz.com has some great examples of MRA’s lurking around the Internet (Warning! The screenshots may melt your brain).
Never fear, there are sites out there advocating for better lives for men while combating the ludicrousness of the above minority MRAs. The Good Men Foundation promotes activism on men’s issues, supports charitable foundations and publishes an online magazine dealing with men’s issues in a respectful more proactive way.
In the corner opposite to Mens Rights Activists are Radical Feminists (and the subset community known as Trans Exclusionary Radical Feminists). Some Radical Feminist are against safe sex work for women, against safe pornography and adult film actresses. Some Radical Feminists even go as far as to state that all sexual intercourse with men (known as penis-in-vagina sex) equates to rape, that having many people view their blogs equates to rape, that women cannot consent to sex with men due to widespread brainwashing and that the concept of biological sex should be policed because women cannot take care of themselves. Other more extreme radical feminists believe that no woman can have consensual sex with transgender women because all consensual sexual activity with transwomen equates to rape, that transwomen hold conferences that teach them how to rape women, some radical feminists even believe that men are such a danger to women that all women should become gay or stop having sex altogether with men because “we shouldn’t sleep with our oppressors”. As well as the idea that all pregnancy is rape and violence against women and all babies are born out of rape. Many radical feminists deny that transgender people exist while ignoring Intersex people – many radical feminists will not admit that women can be perpetrators of rape and sexual violence.
Basically men are to blame for everything.
Please don’t get radical feminists confused with feminists who fight the kyriarchy, who want sex work to be regulated for the safety of the workers and clients, who view intersectionality of vital importance and who include all women from all walks of life – not just cisgendered middle class white women.
The one central theme I have discovered between both extremist groups is one of shifting blame. Both groups are so intent on yelling and screaming and shouting about how the other group is so incredibly horrible and are the source of the worlds problems – they both miss the point completely.
The world needs to be a better place for men, women and children. The world needs feminism that is inclusive of all people. The world shouldn’t shame men for wanting to wear “women’s clothes” – hell there shouldn’t be “women/men’s clothes”, there should just be clothes. The world shouldn’t shame women for liking sex nor should it victim blame survivors of rape regardless of the survivors sex or gender identity. There are a lot of things our society needs to account for and these fringe groups are doing utterly nothing to change the very things they’re moaning about.
MRAs need to stop clinging to their privilege and allow the status quo to shift in favor of a more equal society – and Radical Feminists need to accept that while women are victims of a lot of things, they can also be perpetrators of a lot of things as well. Between you, me and the gatepost, dear readers – I suspect both groups like playing the victim card. They get to whine about how oppressed they are while doing nothing to change it. I doubt that we ever happen – MRAs will call you a feminazi if you disagree with them while RadFems will call you a MRA if you disagree with them. Both groups are cut from the same cloth – extremists with nothing based in logic or reasoning.
Ideally both groups need to come back to the real world and start acting like they actually want to change the world for the better rather than attempting to yell each other out of existence or oppress others for the sake of their own personal gain.
Update: Transphobic radical feminists on Twitter not only prove my point but also resort to insults.
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